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- From: an121141@anon.penet.fi (Alice C. Livingston)
- Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:20:43 UTC
- Subject: GHB - a better described synthesis
-
-
- After no response from anon.penet.fi after five days I have decided to
- repost this; I will just have to assume the original was consumed by the
- scientologists - anyone else have this problem?
-
- This is an update from a post I made sometime last year.
-
- Informational purposes only etc.
-
- ~~~
-
- There has been a lot of talk about GHB on the net of late. I guess this is
- just adding to it but I will try to make sure all I mention is correct.
- Corrections welcome!
-
- GHB or gamma-hydroxybutyrate is usually prepared in a form called sodium
- oxybate which is just the sodium salt of GHB hence its alternative name
- sodium gamma-hydroxybutyrate. Just to make things more complicated CAS
- refers to this salt as butanoic acid, 4-hydroxy, monosodium salt. In the
- earlier abstracts butyric replaces butanoic.
-
- GHB is listed in Merk Ed. 11,8603 under Sodium Oxybate.
-
- Enough of the naming mess, lets have a look at the stucture.
-
- HO-(CH2)3-COOH
-
- This is GHB. For the sodium salt replace the right most H with a Na.
- Pretty simple huh?
-
- The precursor to sodium oxybate is called butyrolactone or
- gamma-hydroxybutyric acid lactone. It is fairly readily available (at
- least where Alice comes from) and not overly expensive. I would estimate
- US$20 for 100ml.
-
- It is supposedly an excellent electrolyte for batteries and capacitors and
- is used as an intermediate for numerous compounds. See Merk Ed. 11,1596 for
- more information.
-
-
- Here is what she looks like.
-
- O
- / \
- H2C C==O
- | |
- H2C---C2H
-
- It should be apparent that opening this ring and a dash of NaO will yield
- Na-GHB. Easy? Most certainly. NaOH will open the ring and at the same
- time makes our salt and also some H2.
-
- Two pieces of magic for the price of one.
-
- Anyone interested in the mechanism behind the ring opening should be aware
- that the butyrolactone is saponified - any organic chem text will give
- more information.
-
- Below is what an hour browsing the Chemical Abstracts yielded.
-
- J.Am.Chem.Soc 51,260 (1929) refluxes NaOH and butyrolactone in water for a
- few hours and the resulting yield is poor, though the procedure is simple
- and therefore probably favoured by some. Summary follows.
-
- 16.3g butyrolactone and 7.4g NaOH were disolved in 30cc. of water and
- bolied under reflux for three hours. AT the end of this time more water
- was added to disolve the salt and the solution was filtered and
- evapourated to dryness under reduced pressure. The salt was recrystalised
- from alchol. Yield was 11.5g.
-
- CA 107:6774e is better but more difficult method. Summary follows.
-
- 15.7g NaOH in 1280ml MeOH was added to 344g gamma-butyrolactone over 1-
- 1.5h at 40C under an inert CO2 free atmosphere. After stiffing for 3h,
- 220g of product was collected.
-
- CA 107:39210w is another patent from by the same people as above. It
- effectively states the same thing but that the rate of addition was
- controlled to maintain a potential of 700mV to prevent the introduction of
- a carbonate. Raises more questions than it answers.
-
- CA 59:11234e would be my procedure of choice though Alice is somewhat suspect
- of their yields. Summary follows.
-
- To a hot solution of 225ml rectified EtOH, 45ml H2O and 220g NaOH, 489g
- gamma-butyrolactone was slowly added and the mixture kept boling for 30
- min. The ppt. crystalised from EtOH yielded 560g Na-gamma-hydroxybutyrate.
-
- Here is how Alice applied the above...
-
- To a round bottomed flask suspended in a bath of candle wax heated by an
- electric hotplate was placed 10ml EtOH, 4ml H2O (15ml 80% alc/vol Vodka
- should substitute okay for these two) with about 10g NaOH.
-
- The weighing of NaOH was done without an accurate scale and was probably
- over estimated. Using exactly 10g of NaOH will still mean that it is in
- excess thus less should be okay - Alice used this amount to ensure all the
- butyrolactone would be reacted.
-
- It is probably unwise to use hardware store lye or whatever due to
- possible impurities combined with the fact that relatively large amounts
- of GHB which have to be ingested for an effective dose.
-
- A condensor was placed on the flask and Alice waited till all was under
- reflux. The NaOH did not completely disolve.
-
- 20ml of butryolactone (M=86.09 g/mol; 1 litre=1.13 kg) was slowly added
- over the next 15 minutes. By this time most of the NaOH had disolved.
-
- The mixture was kept under reflux for the next 2 hours where upon the
- condensor was removed and the EtOH and much of the water was allowed to
- boil off - this took place over a period of an hour or so. Good ventilation
- is a must at this point.
-
- A white, thick oil remained which was quickly poured out onto a flat surface
- and rapidly solidified into a white waxy solid about 5mm thick.
-
- This solid was rather basic due to Alice's excess usage of NaOH so it was
- roughly weighed, then placed in about 200ml of hot water in which is disolved
- easily. With the aid of litmus paper (remember blue equals basic) HCl was
- added till the solution was slightly acidic.
-
- HCl is the ideal acid to add as NaOH + Cl -> H2O + NaCl; that is salty
- water (ugh).
-
- Checking the pH of your product is of the uppermost importance. It must be
- fairly neutral before you even contemplate ingesting your Na-GHB. Or to
- put it another way - if you are really going to fuck up and hurt someone,
- having an overly acidic or basic product is how you will do it.
-
- Alice calculated the volume needed to drink for 1.5g of Na-GHB, consumed it
- grinning and bearing the intense salty taste (this is due to the NaCl,
- Na-GHB is pretty much tasteless when pure) sat, waited for 5 minutes and
- never looked at alcohol again :-)
-
- All good fairy tales have a happy ending and this is no exception, being
- no longer dependent on alcohol is a delight, better than any prince or
- princess!
-
- A second time Alice essentially followed the above procedure but used less
- NaOH. The final product was neutral but with some oily liquid which did
- not solidify which was assumed to be unreacted butyrolactone which was
- poured off ready to be used some other time.
-
- This product was essentially taste free.
-
- Butyrolactone an LD50 of 1.5g/kg in rats, better than that of GHB itself
- so it should not be of too much concern, though Alice has corresponded
- with a person who suspected that this impurity may be the cause of very
- slight headaches which some consumers suffered from the next morning.
-
- A standard dose of GHB is rather hard to determine. Net information
- mentions 'half a teaspoon'. Medline seems to indicate that an effective
- dose varies greatly from person to person.
-
- Medical use in the treatment of narcolepsy and alcohol withdrawl is almost
- invariably 50mg/Kg per day. It is probably safe to assume this is a safe
- starting dose.
-
- Reports mention overdosage can result in 'coma and seizurelike activity'.
- The mentioned amounts which caused these problems were from .25 of a
- teaspoon to 4 tablespoons. Full recovery seems to be universal.
-
- This further goes to show that each persons reaction is very individual.
-
- For more information on the qualitative effects of GHB, ftp to hyperreal.com
- and get the file /drugs/depressants/ghb.
-
- Of particular interest here is a posting by rich@weeds.xs4all.nl from the
- smart-p mailing list which gives an excellent description of the history,
- pharmacology and recreational used of GHB. It is a must-read before you
- experiment with the chemical.
-
- Also there is a posting by dk104@cleveland.freenet.edu which is supposedly
- a post for a friend, 'Frank', who describes how he combatted alcohol abuse
- with GHB and seemingly won.
-
- Alice understand that the author of this post's name was not actually
- 'Frank' and that he was an alt.psychoactives regular who finally outed
- himself as the actual author. If anyone know of his email address please
- contact Alice at the anon email address attached.
-
- Alice would appreciate hearing from anyone who has attempted any of the
- above, be it tasting or cooking.
-
- Slowly slip away, be careful and most of all have fun!
-
- Love Alice Livingston.
-
- ~~~
- Alice Livingston
- 'I am just a truck driver on the information superhighway'
-
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- From: an121141@anon.penet.fi (Alice C. Livingston)
- Date: 1995/11/06
- newsgroups: alt.drugs
-
- Here are some corrections and safety tips which correspond to the ghb
- synthesis archived at ftp://hyperreal.com/depressants/ghb.synthesis
-
- Perhaps Lamont could update that version with the follow information. I
- will give the whole mess of a document a complete overhaul when I get
- the time.
-
- Added notes are included in [braces like this]
-
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- [...snip...]
-
- It should be apparent that opening this ring and a dash of NaO will
- yield
- Na-GHB. Easy? Most certainly. NaOH will open the ring and at the same
- time makes our salt and also some H2.
-
- Two pieces of magic for the price of one.
-
- [well actually some magic and some fantasy as it turns out - no H2 is
- evolved]
-
- [...snip...]
-
- The weighing of NaOH was done without an accurate scale and was probably
- over estimated. Using exactly 10g of NaOH will still mean that it is in
- excess thus less should be okay - Alice used this amount to ensure all
- the
- butyrolactone would be reacted.
-
- [use an accurate scale and use the ratios mentioned in the above chem
- abstract. By doing this you will not have to fiddle around with the pH
- at
- all]
-
- [...]
-
- A white, thick oil remained which was quickly poured out onto a flat
- surface
- and rapidly solidified into a white waxy solid about 5mm thick.
-
- [actually the oily substance is clear until it cools into a white solid]
-
- [...]
-
- A second time Alice essentially followed the above procedure but used
- less
- NaOH. The final product was neutral but with some oily liquid which did
- not solidify which was assumed to be unreacted butyrolactone which was
- poured off ready to be used some other time.
-
- Butyrolactone an LD50 of 1.5g/kg in rats, better than that of GHB itself
- so it should not be of too much concern, though Alice has corresponded
- with a person who suspected that this impurity may be the cause of very
- slight headaches which some consumers suffered from the next morning.
-
- [butyrolactone is something you really do not want to injest at all.
- While the LD50 is fairly high there are unanswered questions about its
- long term toxicity. One method which may be successful in reducing the
- amount of unreacted butytolactone is to boil the final product at 204 C
- (butyrolactone's boiling point) until no more bubbles appear. You could
- also recrystalise the final product from alcohol]
-
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- Alice Livingston
- 'Still softly it floats away'
-
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